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How many Mg’s of THC is in a bowl/joint etc? Need to know dosage, have glaucoma

Shroomshine
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I have glaucoma, and smoke marijuana 5-10 times per day, but I havent ever been able to find out what the “correct dosage” that I need to reduce pressure enough. I mean, I like getting stoned anyway so I just smoke whenever I can, but I’d like to know.

I finally found on a patents website a chart and study results from glaucoma patients using marijuana versus conventional meds etc.
http://www.wikipatents.com/US-Patent-4189491/tetrahydrocannabinol-in-a-method-of-treating-glaucoma
In here, they are giving patients capsules, and only for 6-15 days. and they wanted to keep it at a subpsychotropic level i.e. not get high. If they got high, they were discontinued in the study as they wanted to keep it sub-psychotropic.

In the control group that is using ONLY thc without other meds, the ones that had success (I think they ALL would have if they used it longer and a lil higher dose) were taking 15-40mg of THC per day for 15 days or so (one success was in only 2 days at small doses!). Some people were feeling the stoned effects at 40-50mg and they were stopped.

So, I’m guessing that around 40-50mg THC is about what it takes to get a newbie high (like a bowl of commercial maybe?). It takes me maybe 1-3 bowls of high-grade, maybe a quarter gram, to get good and stoned. How many mg’s of THC would that be, 100 or so?

Also another question: Since I have a tolerance to THC now, does it take more to lower intraocular pressure than it would a non-toker? I wouldnt think so, but if so I def. want to know.

Any input appreciated. Thanks!

Sr. Verde
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Roughly 10mg of THC per 1g of high grade. pretty sure

Personally I think your going at this the wrong way. as far as mg doses, with cannabis. if your smoking the weed, and not eating synthesized pills – find some strains that help your illness and grow them to their fullest

Shroomshine
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Yeah I finally did some basic math last night and figured that – if the bud’s 10% THC then itd be 10mg, lower than I expected but I guess since its smoked its psychoactive at smaller doses. I don’t think they were using ‘synthesized’ THC, but it was in a capsule.

I’d just like to know what an efficient dose is for glaucoma.
Different times during the day, I get high easier than others – before work, two tokes give me a good buzz, at lunch a full chillum maybe 4-5 tokes gets me good, after work a bowl will get me high but I end up smoking them back to back for most of the rest of the night, with 2-3 bowls right before sleep. I assume this should be sufficient to keep glaucoma in check, but what if I can’t smoke during the day or something? Is that OK or is that gonna make my pressure higher? Is one toke enough to do anything?

I have lots of questions, and there doesnt seem to be many answers available online.

smokajoe
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NoGutsGrower
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Shroomshine
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smokajoe: No, I think that means 50mg isnt really all that potent, but potent enough for a non-toker to catch a slight buzz. I think the words they used were “slight dizziness, tiredness, etc.” So not like hallucinatingly high like we like to get on cookies, more of a slight buzz and their goal was to NOT get any buzz.

NoGutsGrower: I’ve got strains that I know and love, but the problem with glaucoma is you cant feel the symptoms of high pressure. I can’t tell that I have glaucoma, only a eye pressure test can tell. So I can’t tell what the proper dosage is, wish I had a home pressure-tester. If the pressure stays high for a long period of time, the nerves die and you keep losing peripheral vision until eventually you’re blind. So I can’t really tell when its working or not, know what I mean?
The herb I buy is really always about the same potency, I know cannabinoids are different in each but the THC content is really the same every time. And same with what I grow. And I smoke enough that I can do anything when I’m high just like normal, but I just want to know for future reference what I SHOULD be using to be effective. For example, do I NEED to bring herb with me every day to work to smoke on lunch break, or is it OK for my pressure to go 8 hours without smoking. Of course I love to get high on lunch, but if I’m running low or don’t want it on me all day for some other reason, I need to weigh the benefits/risks.

Also I don’t think those 10mg Marinols are actually supposed to get you high at all, not sure if you knew or not. According to this study, 10mg didnt get anybody high, just apparently has medical benefits way below the “get high” threshold.

I just watched a video that had the very first federal marijuana patient, one of those few that still gets pre-rolled joints from the fed gov every month, hes a glaucoma patient. He went to court and argued that smoking was less of a risk than losing his eyesight. By the way, they showed a closeup of the pre-rolled joints, I noticed one had a fat seed sticking out the end.

Sr. Verde
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no 10% of 1000mg is 100mg.. not 10mg.

The % of THC rating is more for the chemical makeup of resin/trichome. not the amount of resin vs. plant matter

find a strain that helps your illness, grow it to the fullest and smoke as much as you need to help

if you want to eat a mg dose of synthetic THC look into things like Dronabinol. it is costly and not as effective as the real deal, I hear. as supposedly CBN is where more of the medical properties are. But then at least you can accurately dose the MG’s if thats the ONLY way you wish to use your medication

NoGutsGrower
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ExDex1x1
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I almost died laughing at the wall of texts you all went through to answer an unanswerable question.
Without getting to in depth here there is no set amount of thc per a given mass of bud. 1g of indoor has more thc than 1g of outdoor will. Similarly 1g of a high potency strain will have more thc than a mid potency strain. Hell if you buy 2 grams of the same exact strain from two separate growers they’ll have different amounts of thc based on how they were grown and when they were harvested. Not to mention all the other variables such as:
-where on the plant the bud was pulled from
-how long it was cured
-how much thc was lost in storage or stuck to the container ECT
-how much light the bud was exposed to before you actually smoked it

I could be here all day but yeah I won’t waste more time. There’s a reason your doctor doesn’t tell you how much to smoke like he does with pills: dosing with marijuana is nearly impossible and no two tokes are the same. Smoke until your symptoms are taken care of (or tinctures or what ever ingestion method you use). Its not like you can overdose. The worst to happen is you either need to sleep it off or sit down for 30 mins and have a glass of water.

the science part of marijuana is in the growing and breeding not the ingestion folks! Happy toking

NoGutsGrower
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I almost died laughing at the wall of texts you all went through to answer an unanswerable question.
Without getting to in depth here there is no set amount of thc per a given mass of bud. 1g of indoor has more thc than 1g of outdoor will. Similarly 1g of a high potency strain will have more thc than a mid potency strain. Hell if you buy 2 grams of the same exact strain from two separate growers they’ll have different amounts of thc based on how they were grown and when they were harvested. Not to mention all the other variables such as:
-where on the plant the bud was pulled from
-how long it was cured
-how much thc was lost in storage or stuck to the container ECT
-how much light the bud was exposed to before you actually smoked it

I could be here all day but yeah I won’t waste more time. There’s a reason your doctor doesn’t tell you how much to smoke like he does with pills: dosing with marijuana is nearly impossible and no two tokes are the same. Smoke until your symptoms are taken care of (or tinctures or what ever ingestion method you use). Its not like you can overdose. The worst to happen is you either need to sleep it off or sit down for 30 mins and have a glass of water.

the science part of marijuana is in the growing and breeding not the ingestion folks! Happy toking

Juicy Fruit
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3-5g of cannibinoid resin per ounce of material 3 / 28 is roughly .10714 g of cannibinoid resin per gram of material

5/28 is roucghly .17857 g if cannibinoid resin per gram of matierial

so with high grade to dank you got those amounts

(3-5g measure infered from personal use of bho polar extractions i can do a week straight of 5 hour bho sessions so i have a lot of experience)

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yes when ingested the liver breaks it down in a diff manner changing the effect

as well with any cooking or ingestion make sure you decarb it

Bonzo Mendoza
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A measured ounce of good quality Mexican weed will yeild right at thirty big phat joints – about one gram each, and got me very very stoned.

That was probably 5% thc by weight – works out to about 50 mg for a buzz that last a.m. thru late p.m.

A 20 mg dose of thc will couchlock most people.

colonuggs
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It is helpful to review some often used terms when addressing this question. Terms are frequently interchanged when talking about strength, potency, concentration, and dosage.

INTERPRETING YOUR LABORATORY DATA
Percent Concentration
The cannabinoid profile analysis gives you the concentration of cannabinoids expressed in %. This is the weight of the cannabinoid divided by the total plant weight. What this means is that 15% THC contains 0.15 grams of THC for every 1 gram of plant matter. Percentage is a concentration; a concentration in its simplest form is just a ratio of two things, like salt in water. The ocean, for instance, has a salt concentration of about 3.5%. This means that in a hundred pound of seawater, there are three and a half pounds of salt. The concentration can be expressed in other ways besides %, for instance, 3.5% is the same thing as 35 mg/g, or it could be expressed as 35 parts per 1000. These are all the same ratios.

Potency
Potency is an expression of the relative strength of the concentration, for instance the higher the concentration the higher the potency.

Dosage
Dosage is the concentration, multiplied by the total weight. This is a very useful tool for the dispensing of edibles.

Percent H2O
This is the weight of the water relative to the total weight of the sample. Laboratory samples are reported in both dry and wet weight. Dry weight is the standard laboratory practice, and any laboratory reporting wet weight should make an obvious disclaimer to that effect, as it will result in a lower value. The %H2O of properly cured medicinal cannabis should be between 5–15%.

Interlaboratory Results
The primary discrepancy between laboratories lies in their individual choices of instrumentation, as well as the complex chemical reactions that are taking place at the molecular level. The two options available to the chemist are, Gas Chromatography (GC), or High Performance Liquid Chromatography (HPLC). These instruments are both capable of delivering precise results in the hands of an experienced technician. The important difference between the two instruments is that the GC utilizes heat to analyze the sample, where the HPLC does not. This is an important difference because the vast majority of the cannabinoids (70% -90%), are present in the form of an acid and must be converted before consumption to their neutral form by a process called decaryboxylation. The decarboxylation process activates the THC when it is heated. This is the same thing that occurs when medicine is smoked, when it is baked, or when a sample is analyzed by way of Gas Chromatography. The HPLC system does not heat the sample so no decarboxylation occurs. The HPLC system detects both the neutral cannabinoid of interest, as well as its acidic counterpart. Laboratories that utilize HPLC systems then combine both compounds and report them together. This system does not take into account the loss of cannabinoids by way of decomposition, and the result is a higher reported value. The two different approaches are both accurate and may be used independently as relative references inside of individual dispensaries.

I have glaucoma, and smoke marijuana 5-10 times per day, but I havent ever been able to find out what the "correct dosage" that I need to reduce pressure…

how much weed fits in a bowl

You can test how well you’ve packed your bowl before setting it aflame. After packing the bowl with weed, simply inhale some air through the pipe or bong, as if you were smoking (but without actually lighting the bowl). If air is coming through, your pack is good. If it feels stuck, or the bong is sucking on your face harder than you’re inhaling, then it’s packed too tightly.

Breaking up buds by hand can be a time-consuming and painful task, especially if you’ve got larger hands or bigger-than-average fingers. Crushing a gram-sized nug is usually easy, but as it breaks down into smaller pieces, or as you begin breaking up smaller nugs closer to the bottom of the bottle (or plastic bag, for those of you in outlaw states), your fingers may get sore. However, if you prefer breaking up weed by hand, you’ll never need to worry about carrying a grinder around, or having to clean a grinder once it gets gunked up with resin.
The disadvantage of using a grinder when packing your bowl is also an advantage for some people: It’ll hit extremely hard with hot, harsh smoke. That’s because grinding up weed makes it more compact, so you’re literally packing more weed into the bowl than you would if you broke up the flower by hand. But some folks dig that kind of harsh smoke because it’s guaranteed to get you, your friends, the dog, and possibly even the neighbors walking by your front window blitzed as shit.

Why go with a whole nug right off the bat? According to the aficionados, breaking up, grinding, or otherwise crushing a bud destroys the trichomes, the glandular sacs (the “crystals”) that grow along the flowers. Trichomes contain most of the bud’s cannabinoid and terpenoid contents, and, as the wisdom goes, wrecking the trichomes means losing the terpenes to evaporation and perhaps some of the cannabinoids, too. (Perhaps….)
Some cannabis connoisseurs would take the by-hand approach one step further: Just drop a bowl-sized nug right into the bowl. Obviously, this won’t work with super-dense nugs, but airy or fluffier buds should permit enough airflow through the flower to facilitate smoking.
Believe it or not, there’s more than one way to pack a bowl of bud in your favorite pipe.
Whole Hog
Before we light up, let’s quickly review what a bowl is. The term bowl may or may not predate cannabis culture (and when does that begin, exactly?), and its use began at least two centuries ago. A bowl refers to the part of a pipe or bong that holds the smokable material, typically tobacco, but if you’re at MERRY JANE, we’ll be sticking to weed, thank you very much.

To remedy a bowl packed too tight, poke the bowl with a straight, thin poker-ma-bob (a paper clip, a hair pin, hanger, a dab wand). Or, if you’re able to cover the bowl with your thumb or palm, cover it, then blow out of the pipe (don’t do this with a water bong, or you’ll just shoot water up into your weed, which will then either land on you or the ground. And then you or your surrounding will smell like bong water. Blah!). You should blow the hole at the bottom of the bowl clear while still retaining the contents in the bowl (because you covered it, remember?).

Believe it or not, there’s more than one way to pack a bowl of bud in your favorite pipe.

Traditionally, the provider of the cannabis will determine who gets to light the first hit. To make sure everyone gets the same experience, make sure to corner your bowl by only lighting a fraction of the visible cannabis. This lets everyone get the same great flavor without leaving an ashy hit for somebody at the end.

We don’t recommend using aluminum foil, a soda can, or a window screen as a makeshift pipe screen, as these are often coated with materials that are hazardous to inhale.
We all started somewhere, so for everybody first learning how to smoke a pipe, there are a few pieces of etiquette to follow to ensure you have the best possible experience. When engaging in a smoking session with others, make sure you pack a bowl that’s proportional to the size of the number of people in your smoking circle.

There are many ways to smoke cannabis, but perhaps none are as well-known as smoking a bowl in a pipe. Learning how to pack and smoke a bowl is an essential lesson in cannabis consumption that enthusiasts at both ends of the spectrum can benefit from.
With these tips in mind, smoking a bowl should be a walk in the park. Always remember to use proper etiquette when packing a bowl for friends, and make sure you are consuming cannabis in a safe and legal place. Pack a fat one, call some friends, and have at it!
A common, basic type of pipe is called a “spoon,” because of its shape. These are the best pipes to begin with if you are new to cannabis, as they are small, easy to use, and are typically inexpensive.
Another factor to consider is whether or not to use a screen for your pipe. Screens can help keep you from inhaling burning bits of cannabis, but if you don’t have a pack of pipe screens, here are a few nifty tricks to consider:
For larger groups, heavier packed “party bowls” ensure each smoking buddy gets a fresh hit of green herb. Everyone should get a green hit.

Traditional butane lighters work well, though there is a myriad of non-butane heating elements out there to choose from, if you want to avoid a butane flavor in your bowl. The most effective lighters and heaters will allow for optimal heating control when combusting or vaporizing a bowl.

There are many ways to consume cannabis, but none are as well-known as smoking a bowl. Learn how to properly pack and smoke a bowl for your next session.

You can test how well you’ve packed your bowl before setting it aflame. After packing the bowl with weed, simply inhale some air through the pipe or bong,